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Why This Lawyer Traded The Courtroom For Coaching
What does it actually take to leave a 20-year legal career and become an executive coach? Jonathan Cullen spent two decades as in-house counsel, including at Pfizer, before making that shift.

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Nathalie Blais talks with coaches, executives and researchers about connection, and about the parts of leadership nobody teaches you. Real conversations, not interviews.
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Jesse Schuhlein grew Zabre Technologies from two customers to 170 people, then became a coach. He and Nathalie explore comfort in the unknown, leading without being the expert, and where AI helps coaching — and where it can't.
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